In this episode, I welcome back Dr. Rob Orman for another conversation about his book, Supranormal, and the mindset and practices that help healthcare professionals thrive in demanding careers.

We begin by exploring the difference between empathy and compassion, and why caring for others doesn't mean taking ownership of their outcomes. Dr. Orman introduces the drama triangle and explains how stepping outside the roles of hero, victim, and villain can lead to more productive conversations, particularly when emotions are running high.

We also discuss the importance of preparing ourselves mentally for difficult interactions. From practicing compassion and patience to recognizing when logic isn't what an emotional situation needs, Dr. Orman shares practical ways to respond more thoughtfully under pressure.

Our conversation then turns to career satisfaction and the idea of treating our work and lives as ongoing experiments. Rather than accepting a career exactly as it's handed to us, Dr. Orman encourages us to make intentional adjustments that better align with our needs, priorities, and values.

It's a thoughtful conversation about managing ourselves, caring for others, and creating a career that is not only sustainable but deeply fulfilling.

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