In this episode, Julio Martinez-Clark joins me to talk about how love, forgiveness, and unity can shape leadership especially when the work is hard. As CEO, author, and healthcare entrepreneur, Julio brings both global experience in telecom and a deep perspective from building his own company in healthcare.

We start with his journey from Colombia to the U.S., his engineering and MBA background, and how mentors and books like Power vs. Force and A Course in Miracles reshaped how he thinks about leadership. Julio shares how moving from cognitive to emotional to spiritual intelligence helped him navigate brutal markets and demanding organizational challenges.

We cover how leaders can show up after layoffs, why communication matters as much as the decision itself, and what it means to walk into the room as “an island of peace and a beacon of light.” Julio reframes forgiveness, not as a license for bad behavior, but as a mindset shift that frees leaders to lead without resentment.

We also talk about building trust before the hard conversations, why people want a leader who “knows the way out of the cave,” and how hope, like at the bottom of Pandora’s vase, must always be part of the leader’s message.

If you’re facing tough decisions and wondering how to bring steadiness, compassion, and clarity to your leadership, this conversation will give you both encouragement and practical starting points.

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